Tuesday, July 13, 2010

In the Client's Shoes


By: JACQUELYN CARPENTER


It was so surreal.

This could not be happening to her.

Several police cars had lit up all at once at least three, if not more. A bright light had come on as well. Officers were behind her vehicle, a rental as it were, giving instructions that she was supposed to raise her hands. She knew without looking that a gun was aimed in her direction, if not at her very head. An officer came to her driver’s side door and attempted, quite rudely in her opinion as he had no reason, to open it. It was locked. With her hands still raised, afraid she may be shot for moving, she moved her eyes to meet his. He tapped on the window and told her to unlock the door. Keeping her right hand in the air and moving the left one (closest to the door), she closed her hand so that only one finger, her index finger, remained raised. With no sudden movements, she slowly lowered her hand to hit the button that would unlock the doors. Once pushed, she put her hand back in the air. The officer opened the door.

He demanded her driver’s license. She had been stopped at a traffic light so there was no way this was a traffic stop; the fact that he did not ask for her insurance confirmed this was no traffic stop. Besides, who uses guns in a regular traffic stop anyway? Nevertheless, her driver’s license was in a wallet in her purse. She was confused about how to retrieve it without getting shot in the back by an antsy officer. Her purse was by her left foot on the floor. She looked at the purse and back at the officer, hands still in the air, shrugging to show her confusion. He told her to get it, so she finally moved . . . slowly, still scared, still confused.

What was happening? Was this really happening?

After handing her license to the officer, he told her to get out of the vehicle. Once again, she followed his instructions. She accompanied him to his squad car per his request, which she obviously had no choice but to follow. He then asks her, “Where are you coming from?” She knew the answer; it was simple. She had no real reason not to tell him, but innocent people go to prison all the time because they cooperate thinking they are innocent and the judicial system will work. No, she refused to be part of that group. Besides, she knew better. She had to take her own advice on this one. She told the officer, “I don’t want to answer your questions.” The officer seemed surprised, but came back quickly, “Why not? If you don’t have anything to hide, you can tell me where you were.” The officer was insinuating she had something to hide, but she did not. She was a criminal defense attorney. Should she tell him? Would it make a difference? Probably not. She responded to his inquiry, “I want my lawyer.” Another surprised look, a narrowing of the eyes, so she answered his unasked question, “Arrest me. If that is what you are going to do, then arrest me. But understand, I still want my lawyer.”

The officer put the handcuffs on her! Was she being arrested?! She was locked in the back of his squad car. She began to look around.

Meanwhile, she had a passenger in the vehicle with her. He was a friend, a black male (Let’s call him “Black” to protect the innocent and misidentified). By this point, Black was at another squad car, being handcuffed and placed inside. The officers stood behind the two cars and talked with one another. She thought she heard something about her asking for a lawyer. She couldn’t be sure. Did he click the handcuffs an extra notch because she “lawyered up”? The handcuffs are uncomfortable. How do they expect you to sit in the seat when your hands are forced behind you and the seats are so small?

Three officers moved. They went to Black and she heard them say, “Your partner is demanding a lawyer.” Partner? They then asked if he was willing to speak with them. She couldn’t make out everything, but she knew Black did not get her memo (“You have the right to remain silent, so shut the hell up!”). Black told them everything – where they had been and where they were going (had been to Wal-Mart to buy swimwear to go swimming at his brother’s apartment). He didn’t know how to shut up. She could only hear bits and pieces. She heard her Black say, “Hell yeah she is hot (meaning angry). She’s never been in trouble a day in her life.” They were asking Black why she would ask for a lawyer. Black responded, “Because she is one.” After seeing the surprise register on their face, one even did a double take, her friend added, “She’s a lawyer herself. She practices criminal defense.” Why? Why would he tell them that? For sure she would go to jail based on that information alone. They hate lawyers, especially criminal defense lawyers. It’s not as though she is an assistant district attorney helping them to prosecute alleged criminals.

A light-skinned African-American man comes between the vehicles and looks at Black. She has seen him before. In fact, about five minutes ago when they had passed a Cricket store just before. They were stopped at a traffic light. She also remembered there was a Hispanic lady outside the Cricket store with police officers and had begun to point in their direction. The African-American man shakes his head after seeing Black and tells police, “that’s not him”. Does that mean we can go?

More time passes before the officer returns to his squad car. He gets in and starts the car. Is she headed downtown? What about her purse? “My purse is in the car.” With no fanfare the officer dryly tells her to calm down, the vehicle is being towed and they are only going back to the scene. Scene? “Back to the scene?” She was never at “the scene” in the first place. The officer turns on his lights briefly to make a u-turn.

The officer questions her again, “Are you just coming back from Denton (30 miles north past Dallas)? Is that why you are in a rental?” What does he know about Denton? Black had definitely talked too much. She had been in a car wreck two weeks before as she was returning to Houston from Denton, where she had had a case. The only way the officer could know anything about it, however, was that the passenger had said something. She supposed the officers wanted to know why she was driving a rental car. That was none of their business either. She never bothered answering. Instead she asked him for the time, he responded in military time, but she repeated it in regular time. Then she asked him his name. He told her his last name. Then she asked, “Is your first name John?” He was surprised and hesitated when he responded that it was; she could sense his trepidation. The officer asked her if she was a criminal defense lawyer. “As a matter of fact, I am,” she said.

They arrived shortly thereafter at a Cricket store. No one came out to look at either her or her friend – no African-American man and no Hispanic lady. A few minutes later, the police went to her friend, spoke with him, and released him from the handcuffs, but he remained inside the vehicle. Afterwards, the same police officer came to her. He said, “Ma’am I’m going to explain to you what’s going on. This store was robbed and your friend was identified as the person who did it. We had to detain him to make sure it was not him by looking at the video surveillance tape.” She asks, still handcuffed, “Was there a woman involved in the robbery?” in an attempt to make sense of her detention. The officer answers, “No, Ma’am, but you were in the car.”

The officer asks her if she is ready for him to take the cuffs off of her. Seriously? Need you even ask? She stands up and turns around. After they are removed she asked if she was arrested. He makes a point of telling her that she was never arrested. She then asks if she is still “detained” to which he responds she is not. She informs him that she would not be getting back in the back of his car. He stated that was fine. Though she had to wait for her vehicle to be towed to “the scene”, she was at least free to make a decision for herself. Frankly, she would have preferred to have walked to her vehicle, anything to get away from the chaos.

Slowly, she began to come to herself. I am Jacquelyn R. Carpenter, a criminal defense attorney, who now realizes firsthand how easy it is to be accused of something you did not do, especially being in the area where you are unknowingly driving past a “scene” where something reportedly just happened, particularly if you are with a black male. I know so many black males, friends and family. So how do I prevent being stopped by police at gunpoint for riding with a black male in the future? It was so easy for this lady to randomly select a black male from the general public and have him and me scrutinized and interrogated, which is a scary thought in and of itself.

This experience was humiliating, insulting, demeaning, hurtful, scary . . . everything our clients’ tell us it is. What’s worse, we were actually innocent, and, in many ways, it didn’t matter. We were never even at the Cricket store.

At the end of this episode, I realized that I attempted to invoke my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights, but that is not what the officer understood, apparently, since he continued to ask questions. I thought later that it would have been unequivocal if I had said, “I invoke my Fifth Amendment rights.” When that did not come out, in my state of confusion and with so much chaos, I slipped quite simply into plain English. It is not easy to be clearheaded in the face of this type of authority, especially considering the display of authority while a gun is aimed in your direction. It is hard to understand the split-second decisions our clients have to make faced with the same show of authority (i.e., guns aimed at them, being surrounded by officers, flashing lights, handcuffed, “detained” or arrested). I had the benefit of experience in the system, which still had its moments. I pray that we all do better at putting ourselves in our clients’ shoes and attempting to understand. I do believe I will be more cognizant from this point forward.

26 comments:

  1. Thank you for writing about this. I appreciate how you asserted your legal rights in a stressful situation. Any one of us could be falsely accused at any time. And we know that African-Americans are at much higher risk of being falsely accused, falsely charged, and falsely convicted of crimes they never did. We should all learn and know our legal rights when dealing with police. Police have their own agenda, and the laws give them far too much power.

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  2. It's good to know that you still think it's your job to protect the innocent. I mean after all you have been through I surely would have lowered my demeanor a notch or two. I can't imagine what it must have been like for you to have even be rejected by the 5th circuit and still have remained calm. After all you was dealing first hand with a second hand man and had all of the 5th circuit rights. Ms. Carpenter for the sake of justice I salute you.

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  3. From a legal perspective, you WERE arrested. Any person handcuffed, placed in the back of a police car, and taken from one location to another, would clearly consider themselves arrested. It's not viewed from the perspective of the cop, but from the perspective of the person subjected to custody.

    And, you were arrested without probable cause. According to the Supreme Court, you should sue. But you and I both know that won't get you anywhere.

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  4. I am stunned by what happened to you, and upon reflection, realize that it happens far more often than any of us realize. Thank you for writing this, and sharing your experience. TCL

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  5. I am sorry. I also want to thank you for sharing this with us. I have tears in my eyes. I have also experienced been falsely accused of committing a crime and I know how painful the experience is. Take care my sister and be strong. -Uhuru

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  6. Good job keeping your composure Jackie. Black occupants + rental car = profiling. You were arrested and it's only going to make your defense of the innocent even stronger.

    Attorney George Powell

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  7. To the passenger in the vehicle, A great man by the name of Dr. Myles Munroe says the greatest gift God ever gave man is vision not sight, vision shows you what life could be, sight shows you what life is. That's a real truth, one of our favorite expessions is calling those things we see a certainty of truth. " It is what it is " we say but it doesn't have to be true. As a man thinketh so is he and I think myself out of temptation and think myself into deliverance. Trouble will always hit you when you are almost there, when you can see yourself in the place that you hoped for all your life. That thing that hit you didn't hit you because you wasn't close. It hit you because you was almost there. Trouble will always hit you when it hurts. It will always come before you arrive especially when it feels good to to prove your point or get upset. This kind of trouble can have you defining masculinaty as anger but God says anger rests in the bossom of fools. It is the entrance of the word that gives you light and illuminates you into higher dimensions. God bless you

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  8. Cops don't really respect the right to remain silent on the street. I was detained a couple of years ago for babysitting while white in an incident that reinforced that perception.

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  9. I wonder if it had of been a black man babysitting a little white girl while black, embrassing her, bringing her up under his teaching, and edifying her in his image if the police would have been so kind to let him go. I appreciate what you did for your grandaughter and how you remained affirmative and corresponed in accordance with her emotions. I value service with excellencey, I also value the reality that you mention that the policy against driving while black has been a discrepancey tolerated far to long. I only wonder if you could put yourself in the clients shoes and be a black man embrassing a little white girl instead of a white man embrassing a little black girl.

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  10. 12:50, I have no idea what that comment means! What are you saying/asking?

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  11. As a white male police commander with 27 years of experience in a southern town, I wanted to speak from the officers' perspective. Armed Robbery is a serious crime that mandates a vigorous police response to protect the public. From the police point of view, they were dealing with armed suspects, who were fleeing from an act of violence.

    Consider the reasonable suspicion for the stop. The officers found the exact vehicle witnesses said were involved in the crime. Officers located the same person (people) who a witness identified. One suspect decided to be uncooperative, which is her right, but does little to relieve suspicion.

    So should the two people consider themselves to be under arrest while handcuffed and detained in the back of a police car? Absolutely. Once the probable cause evaporated should the two have been un-arrested? Absolutely, and they were. The police procedures and system worked exactly as they were designed to do.

    I hate that Ms. Carpenter had the negative experience that she did, but, in my opinion, it has nothing to do with her race, her profession, or vehicle she drove. I hope she avails herself sometime of the opportunity to participate in a Citizen's Police Academy with her local department.

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  12. Dear Grits for breakfast, I am not exacting anything to you one way or another. I read your blog, it was a outstanding. I think that you handled the situation handling the suspension with your grandaughter with excellence. However I have some of your same concerns about the need for change in racial profiling. This is no insult to you one way or the other I am only considering the Era in time of which we live. It has not been uncommon for a white family to raise African American children. I am only asking because I believe you have a true concern for African Americans if you could put yourself in the same situation but as a black man. I am wondering if America could handle a black man raising white children especially females in the same way white families have been raising African American. I am not talking about the days were in house servants played a roll in helping raise white children. I am wondering that if today in a modern society if American could handle free men with their own ideas ethics and poltical beliefs raising young white children under their own household requirements. It could be so easy for a man who has watched his children be taking away and be raised by other men to have rebellion in his heart and want to take the same action against those that hurt him and his family. It would be so easy to be drawn away by this lust so could a white man trust that a black man would not do to him what the things formaly done to his family. Would it be so hard to believe that there are black men with integrity that are devoted to loving their family irregardless of their nationality fully and completely in the same wholesomeness that you love the beautiful grandaughter you share in devote a life of fundamentals towards. Bless you

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  13. As a criminal defense attorney, I appreciate your post. I was directed to it it from the ABA's website and I'm glad I read the entire thing.

    Thanks for the insight. Although I have always imagined the feelings that you've articulated so well, I can say that your post has helped me understand the feelings our clients go through. I often advise my clients, for future reference of course since they're often already charged, that it is difficult and scary to exercise their rights in the face of such seemingly overwhelming authority, they must do so or their words are prone to be "summarized" advantageously for the officers or just outright misquoted in the reports.

    Thanks again for the post and, despite some of the replies on ABA, thanks for the graciousness with which you handled this situation.

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  14. That Big Red Dog finds this to be OK and proper says all you need to know about police culture in the United States.

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  15. That Big Red Dog simply voiced his opinion smart one.

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  16. A similar incident happened to a civil rights lawyer in Vancouver, BC (Canada) a few years ago. The violations of his rights were even more egregious, as he was taken into custody, strip searched, and held for 4 hours, then released with no apology. I represented that lawyer in a civil suit against the police, and we won the case. The damages awarded were very small compared with the time and effort to run the case, but my client wanted vindication. The police appealed, and their appeal was dismissed by the Court of Appeal. The Police then appealed to the Supreme Court of Canada, on the narrow issue of whether a person whose constitutional rights have been violated, in the absence of bad faith, is entitled to damages. The case is under reserve. To read the trial judgment, see http://www.courts.gov.bc.ca/jdb-txt/sc/07/00/2007bcsc0003.htm

    I admire you for handling the situation with such grace. Your reluctance to sue to enforce your rights illustrates that for most people (who lack your knowledge of the law and resources) a civil suit is unrealistic.

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  17. My attention was drawn to this article via a friend's facebook post and I felt compelled to post my thoughts. I am a police officer of 7 years.

    Let us review the facts as the author elucidates them:

    The author says she and "Black" were driving past the Cricket Store. A Hispanic lady was speaking with police and pointed out the author's vehicle as it drove away. If the officers were investigating a crime (in this case, an armed robbery) The officers would not be doing their job if they had not stopped the vehicle.

    They stopped the vehicle using standard high-risk procedures (guns drawn). Armed robbery suspects often choose to shoot it out with police rather than go to prison. This is also the reason for three or more police cars. Remember, the victim/witness pointed out the author's specific car.

    The author chose not to answer any of the officer's questions. Is this her right? Absolutely. Does it help her case? Not really, especially if she did nothing wrong. As a police officer, normal, law-abiding citizens usually have no problem answering simple questions (Such as, where are you coming from? Were you at the Cricket store? Why are you driving a rental car?) Often times suspects use rental cars because it is hard to track them to individual offenders, especially if a witness does not get a license plate.

    If the officers are investigating a robbery and the author chooses not to give a statement, then the officers do not have the full story--they do not have the author's side of the story. They cannot establish or verify her alibi or explanation.

    "Black" gave a statement, one that probably made sense to the officers. A witness, a "light skinned black male" said "Black" was not the suspect. But what of the Hispanic female who originally pointed out the author's vehicle? Perhaps the officers had to confirm with the Hispanic lady that the author and "Black" were not involved. Even though the Hispanic lady did not come outside to identify her or "Black" often times the "curbstone lineup" is done where the suspect does not see the witness. This is often done in cases where a witness may feel fearful of retaliation.

    Also, I am certain the author is familiar with the unreliability of eye-witness identification, especially under stressful conditions. If there were video surveillance, certainly the officers would review it to make sure both the author and "Black" were not involved.

    The author asked the officer if a female was involved in the robbery. The officer answers "no." Often times, suspects in crimes use getaway drivers. Many times, they use female getaway drivers because they tend to draw less attention. A male and a female together look less threatening and more "innocuous" than two men in a car.

    In San Diego about a month ago male (white male) shoplifted a Radio Shack. He ran to a waiting vehicle (with a female inside) and drove off. When officers got behind that vehicle, the male suspect opened fire on the pursuing officers. The female was reloading his weapon when he ran out of ammunition.

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  18. The victims in the Radio Shack had no idea there was a female involved. But was she involved in the incident? Most definitely.

    Is the experience of being stopped by the police frightening? It can be. Is it frightening to be handcuffed and accused of a crime you did not commit? Absolutely.

    Unfortunately the police do not have superpowers and they are not omniscient. They can only go off of witness and victim statements, observations, evidence (video, stolen property, etc.) and the statements of potential suspects. Only then can they draw conclusions (and probable cause for arrest). In this case it appears the police acted appropriately, cordially, and released "Black" and the author as soon as the investigation was complete.

    I cannot relate to the author from a personal standpoint. I am not black, nor am I female. I have never been arrested or detained for a prolonged period of time. But the facts as related by the author reveal what seems to be a standard robbery investigation where a witness singles out a single vehicle in traffic as suspect.

    The author's own prejudice against law enforcement is apparent in this article. And I don't say prejudice with any negative connotation. I am sure her life experience as well as her experience as a defence attorney have shaped these biases. She is entitled to her opinion.

    But perhaps she would be better serving her clients if she looked at things from a rational and factual perspective than from one that is emotionally driven and rooted in her own personal prejudices.

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  19. I appreciate the fact that you said you are not omniscient but you are talented in your line of duty. I didn't see a full potential for the need of the arrest but I am certainly in agreement with your point of veiw. I think the arrest could have been avoided with questioning. I also think that if the author was so badly damaged that she should sue. Sometimes the potential of going to court helps us all see the entirity of the situation much more clearly. Perhaps evidence with held and witnesses that have former relationship with the suspects would make a baffling Tell It All Book. Then perhaps the eyes for pursuit could be taking off the police department and on to the one that hold the candle under the table or in the dark room. Perhaps then we would not only know the relationship the witness has to the suspects but uncover a real pursuit for justice, longevity and happiness. I don't know it's just a thought, don't shoot the messenger.

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  20. Dear Counsel, I have not read the entire judgement in advocating your lawyer in Canada. I am however interested morely because I feel that Royal countries illustrate there powers here in the United States. It is apparent to me because the Queen sent the London Bridge across the Arizona river to prove her dominion here. My Grandmother is a hatchling of hers and exilirates her Queen Ship through the exalted womans club. She was the treasure on Alcatraz in the exalted womans club and moved on to be even more powerful in Arizona to the next prison she was sent. Her husband was a federal gaurd so they were always housed on federal property. The wives supremecy and desire for power over the men grew stronger day by day. If you think African men have it bad then think again. I have never seen a black man so well trained that he is willing to stand out side the Queens Castle on the other side of the fence just to be pissed on all day. I have never seen any man so well trained that he is willing to wear a big long hat and be mocked and cursed all day long just to prove she has control. He never says a mumbling word to satisfy the Lordship of his Queen and it doesn't seem to bother him that there is no King. African Americans complain that America finally for the first time has seen a black president but I still have yet to see a King. I have met a Prince whose father was a King but he was never awarded the crown because his father was dethroned. There is Provinces and land, Preist and Princes but there is no King.

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  21. There is no King but Jesus is the King of all King and he lives. The Queen doesn't want him to live but I know he lives because he lives in me. Unfortunately I let other quest move in my house, my temple, my safe place of refuge and they used me to habor immigrants. They used me to hide them from the Queen because even the ants know that they are required to take everything to the Queens secret place. In doing so they get to dwell in the castle and eat of her danties. If only the Queen knew that they were using someone in the image of her to habor quest for personal pleasure and love then they would be in big trouble. The Queen peiced a bridge in Arizona to illustrate her Authority here in America. How dare any one allow immigration in a desecrated area for productivity if she can't put her finger on the meat. A spider takes hold with her hands spindles her web and sits in Kings places. She is angry because the London bridge is falling down. King Ahab was a powerful King but he married Jezebel. Jezebel took him down and he became a leper and he sent for a cloth with the blood stain of Jesus one day and he was healed. Then in the new testament Jesus healed 7 lepers and I believe all of these lepers were Kings. I believe they all got there healing 7 fold. There are 7 teens in the numeric number system. Then the list goes on and on but Jesus is a bridge over muddy waters. One of these days I will have to sing that to the Prince. He does not know he's a King so he keeps throwing his shirt down in a puddle and letting a harlot walk on his back. Proverbs 6

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  22. LORD FORGIVE ME I WAS RAISED IN THE GHETTO - I KNOW ABOUT MONA LISA IN THE DAVINCI CODE BUT AROUND HERE WE HAVE ANOTHER CODE. IT'S A BLACK THING-WE TAP TO THE RYTHEM. IF I WAS DOWN IN SHARPS TOWN RIGHT NOW I WOULD TAP THAT BEAT AND PASTOR WOULD NAME THAT TUNE. IF I WAS DOWN IN SHARPS TOWN RIGHT NOW PASTOR AND I COULD TAP IT OUT TOGETHER BECAUSE LIKE LL COOL J WE ALL NEED LOVE. AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT HE NEEDED IN THE BEGINNING OF HIS CAREER BUT AS HE GREW BIGGER HIS BEAT CHANGED AND HIS LYRICS DEPLOYED. HIS TUNED CHANGED TO " LISA HAS A BIG OLE BUTT, I KNOW I TOLD YOU I'D BE TRUE BUT LISA HAS A BIG OLE BUTT SO I'M LEAVING YOU" SEE YA

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  23. You know my Queen since I made these post you've offered to house me and my children. You have offered me jobs and wealth and even ownship of my own white man whose house is big enouph for me and all my children to live. I quess you have not proposed in your heart that while you and my King were inside the castle on the inside of the fence. I was outside the fence getting pissed on with the rest of the soldiers on the other side of the fence. If you think I won't defend the white man that is bound as much as my own then keep thinking. I know you want the white man with the big house now but a few weeks ago you said you owned all black men. Sikkkke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  24. I was waiting on someone to ask about the 7 lepers when Jesus cleased 10 and made 1 whole. It's geometrics but I'm sure someones good with math.

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  25. Thank you for posting this,for I was in a similar situation myself with the same scared and angry feelings.I've learned now not to take so much for granted and be aware,very aware of the police.But thanks to Mr. Davis I can walk alil lighter now.

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"I freed a thousand slaves I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

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